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Tuesday, July 05, 2005

Maddoxgate just won't go away

Maddox hit by another complaint this time filed by Florida PBA

The Lakeland Ledger today called on Maddox to drop out of the race:

Bill Cotterell's take


Also what are the expectations for fundraising this past quarter for the three candidates? I'd assume Maddox raised the most it being his first quarter in the race.

55 comments:

Tim said...

Sheesh!

What will it take for Maddox to finally wake up and see the writing on the wall:

HE IS DONE!

Let me also put it in Shakespearen terms:

Good night sweet prince!

Jeff said...

This is totally absurd. The PBA twice endorsed Jeb Bush and has time and time again undermined Democratic candidates for Legislature. Clearly they are concerned about facing a battle tested Scott Maddox next year and are trying to knock him out.

Anonymous said...

"F the police. Don't trust law enforcement." That's a winning message for Maddox supporters.

We live in an era of exurban "security moms". And, like it or not, the PBA will carry a lot of weight. When the PBA raises law enforcement's voice about Maddoxgate during the election season, it's over for Maddox.

Anonymous said...

A message posted on the Floridapolitix board hits close:

Anonymous said...
Maddox remains silent. Debbie has lawyered up. There's something rotten in Denmark.

9:03:07 AM

Anonymous said...

This comment was also posted at Florida Politix. Well said:

I don't know about Denmark, but the shit is hitting the fan in Tallahassee. According to the papers, Maddox may have committed a felony. This is unbelievable! Instead of moving into the governor's mansion, he may be heading to jail. How can Democrats still support this guy? Scott Maddox is singlehandedly destroying the Florida Democratic Party!!!

Jeff said...

This is no big deal. Actually it should speak highly of Scott. Instead of taking the party's money he obviously got someone to contribute to paying the fine so that party money could continue to go towards electing Democrats.

All those of you on this blog are doing is contributing to the efforts by the Bush/Crist/Rove team to divide and conquer us. We are once again fighting to stop the GOP from effectively choosing our nominee for Governor.

browardem06 said...

You whiners cannot find anything else to talk about, obviously. Maddox has been vindicated by the FDP itslef and this is a dead issue.

Anonymous said...

Maddox will still win the nomination. Look at his spin and how he had turned this back against the GOP. He'll escape and be stronger than ever after this.

Joe said...

This story is a non-starter. Why? Not because Maddox didn't do anything wrong but because I heard earlier today that charlie Crist raised over $4 million this quarter. That's where the media will focus the story.

Anonymous said...

To the comment that said: "All those of you on this blog are doing is contributing to the efforts by the Bush/Crist/Rove team to divide and conquer us."

Three questions:

Did Jeb Bush, Karl Rove or Charlie Crist forget to pay the FDP's IRS payroll taxes?

Did Jeb Bush, Karl Rove or Charlie Crist neglect to pay property tax on a home that their treasurer was allowed to live in rent free?

Did Jeb Bush, Karl Rove or Charlie Crist take an unreported $10,5000 dontation to the Leon County DEC to pay a fine to the county supervisor of elections?

Show me how Jeb Bush, Karl Rove or Charlie Crist are responsible for these foul ups.

Kartik said...
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Kartik said...

Not because Maddox didn't do anything wrong but because I heard earlier today that charlie Crist raised over $4 million this quarter.

Well I heard it wasn't quite $4 million but close enough. $3.75 million and yes that will be a big story.

Jeff said...

Anonymous you are totally 100% wet. The GOP fears Scott Maddox for several reasons.

1- He is a powerful speaker
2- He can rally grassroots support that other candidates can not
3- He can win in rural North Florida
4- He is young and could usher in a new era of Democratic dominance in the state.

Thus Karl Rove and the Bushes have carefully planned this campaign to knock Maddox out of the race before he gets too strong to beat.

The media has bought into this smear campaign and blog sites like this are just furthering the Republican agenda with regards to Scott Maddox.

Anonymous said...

State party paid $10,500 fine for Leon County Democrats

TALLAHASSEE, Fla.

State party funds were used to cover the cost of a fine levied against the Leon County Democratic Party last year when gubernatorial hopeful Scott Maddox served as chairman for both, new state party Chairwoman Karen Thurman said Wednesday.

The revelations showed the party cut a pair of checks for $5,000 and a third for $500 on Dec. 16, 2004 to People's First Community Bank in Tallahassee, which in turn issued a $10,500 cashier's check payable to the Leon County Supervisor of Elections to satisfy a fine for failing to timely file a required financial report.

The checks, Thurman said, were consecutively numbered and signature-stamped, not signed.

Maddox and Paige Carter-Smith, who was Maddox' executive director in both state and local posts, have both said they were unaware that the checks had been issued.

"I knew it had to come from somewhere," Carter-Smith said Wednesday. "I'm disappointed in the matter it was done. I've pledged to the chair of the Florida Democratic Party the Leon County party will repay her."

Maddox's campaign has been plagued in recent weeks by allegations that he mismanaged the state party. It failed to make Social Security and payroll tax payments to the Internal Revenue Service in 2003 and only last week cleared up that obligation with a $200,000 payment to the federal government.

An extensive audit ordered by Thurman also resolved a series of bookkeeping errors that resulted in a $926,000 bookkeeping discrepancy from the 2003 and 2004 reports.

Thurman's disclosure comes a day after a police union founded by his father questioned the "mysterious" payment of the fine.

The Police Benevolent Association, which has endorsed Republican Attorney General Charlie Crist in the 2006 governor's race, made the complaint with the state Elections Commission. The complaint also asked the commission to determine if Maddox broke the law when he signed a waiver that failed to show payment of the fine.

The fine was imposed because the Leon County Democratic Party was late filing a postelection report in 2004. Maddox, a former Tallahassee mayor, was then chairman of both the state and Leon County parties.

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On the Net:

Florida Democratic Party:

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Anonymous said...

Oh my god!- Thr truth finally comes out and it ain't pretty for Maddox & Co.

Now he's saying he was also unaware about how this could have happened. Th so-called "executive experience" candidate for Governor.

This is beyond pathetic, it's actually a farce.

...and the longer Maddox stays in the race the longer the joke continues to be at our expense as Democrats.

For the love of god (and the party):

GET OUT SCOTT!!

GET OUT NOW!!

TONIGHT!!

It's bad enough this is the counter story to Crist's $3.85MM take.

What are you going to raise Scott?

$500,000?

$600,000?

Even that is a drop in the bucket, compared to the embarassment you've rained down upon us.

Please, spare us more scorn and ridicule and leave the race to those who still have a fighting chance!

GET OUT!!

Anonymous said...

Didn't you know. This is all a plot by the Bushies to take down Maddox.

After all, wasn't it Karl Rove who was running the Florida Democratic Party when all these problems occured?

jesse said...

BREAKING NEWS

TIME REPORTER IDENTIFIES SOURCE

WASHINGTON, DC - Time reporter Matthew Cooper, who avoided jail time by agreeing to testify as to who leaked the name of a undercover CIA operative, today revealed the name of his source. Cooper identified former Florida Democratic Party chairman and candidate for governor Scott Maddox as the source who leaked Valerie Plame's name to the press.

Maddox quickly denied any knowledge of the leak. He instead blamed former party comptroller Debbie Griffin-Bruton, who Maddox alleges used to hypnotize him and allow him to make phone calls without his knowledge.

"Debbie used to wave a watch in front of my eyes until I lost all consciousness. I then had no control over my actions," said Maddox. "I kept receiving my monthly phone bills with charges for psychics and pornography, and I thought that was bad enough. But I never knew that she was tricking me into making phone calls against national security without my knowledge."

Maddox quickly tried to put the issue to rest.

"I accept all responsibility for this horrible ordeal, because it was all Debbie's fault."

Matt said...

My guess is that Paige Carter Smith will be dialing for lawyers in the morning!

Joseph said...

Will you guys give it a rest already? Maddox has already been cleared by the FDP, and all this story really entails is an attempt by a GOP leaning lobbying group with a personal vendetta against Scott to keep the story alive.

Anonymous said...

How come nobody points out that when Maddox assumed the chair of the FDP, he publicly said that he would not use the position as a political stepping stone for higher office; instead focusing on making the party stronger.

Well, if I can remember correctly, Democrats couldn't deliver the state in 2004, we lost a House seat in Broward County, we don't have money to fund candidates, much less day-to-day operations, and Scott Maddox is running for Governor.

Just like many of our state Democratic elected officials, Scott Maddox is looking out for himself and not the party. And we wonder why Republicans continue to thrive.

Anonymous said...

Maddox did make the party stronger. We moved into a new headquarters, inproved our IT capacity, hired new staff, improved our grass roots ground game developed a "bench" by winning municipal races across the state.

Maddox did very well as chair. Hindsight is always 20/20 now that we know about these fiscal problems, the party was better off after he left than when he took over for sure.

Anonymous said...

This is not true. The party was in much better shape as an organization when Bob Poe was chairman.

Rank and file Dems felt better about themselves when Maddox was chairman, because he yelled and screamed and threw red meat to the activists. But in reality, the party began to fall apart when Maddox took over - primarily meaning he couldn't raise money.

Anonymous said...

Maddox had no idea how fine was paid

By Bill Cotterell

DEMOCRAT POLITICAL EDITOR


Florida Democratic Party funds were funneled through a Tallahassee bank to pay a $10,500 fine for the Leon County party, but Scott Maddox - who was chairman of both groups - didn't know it, state and local Democratic chiefs said Wednesday.

Former state party comptroller Debbie Griffin-Bruton broke the payment into two checks of $5,000 and a third one for $500, according to Mark Herron, general counsel of the state party, and Paige Carter-Smith, who heads the Leon County Democratic Executive Committee. That way, they said, she could use a rubber stamp of Maddox's signature, dodging the requirement of two signatures on checks exceeding $5,000.

Griffin-Bruton, who was also treasurer of the Leon DEC, could not be reached for comment.

The Maddox campaign for governor has endured withering criticism for the state party's failure to pay payroll withholding and Social Security taxes during six months of his chairmanship, as well as the county party's late filing of a quarterly financial report. He has said Griffin-Bruton, who resigned both her state and county posts, never told him of mistakes she made.

"Scott talked with the party and worked with them to find out where the money came from," Sallie Stohler, his campaign manager, said of the transfer of funds to pay the fine. "It appears that Debbie Griffin-Bruton did this without telling anybody and hid it from folks."

But David Murrell, executive director of the Florida Police Benevolent Association, which filed a civil complaint with the State Elections Commission against Maddox on Tuesday, said the explanation does not resolve the initial failed reporting of the $10,500.

"He must be the most uninformed person on the face of the earth," Murrell said.

Maddox, a former Tallahassee mayor, was chairman of both the Leon County DEC and the Florida Democratic Party from early 2003 through last May, when he resigned to run for governor and Karen Thurman replaced him. Late last month, the state party paid about $200,000 in taxes, penalties and interest for the unpaid federal taxes.

Maddox took responsibility for the situation but said Griffin-Bruton didn't tell him the taxes for the middle six months of 2003 were not paid. An internal audit of party finances last week supported his explanation.

But his campaign was rocked again when it was disclosed that, on Dec. 16, a $10,500 fine against the Leon DEC - for late filing of a quarterly financial report - had been mysteriously paid. The cashier's check for that fine did not list a person paying it.

On Jan. 10, Maddox signed a waiver of a final financial report, saying there had been no activity to report in the county party. Receipt and expenditure of the $10,500 did not show up in county DEC records.

Carter-Smith said she spoke with Griffin-Bruton's attorney and determined that the ex-employee "facilitated the payment of the county party fine by using state party funds in a series of checks that did not require the double-signature approval process." She said Griffin-Bruton used Maddox's signature stamp "without his knowledge."

"In addition, it appears the campaign report she did have Chairman Maddox sign was accurate because the money for the fine did not come from the DEC treasury," Carter-Smith said.

Thurman released copies of three consecutively numbered checks for $5,000, $5,000 and $500. They were dated Dec. 16 and made out to the Peoples First Community Bank - which on the same day issued a $10,500 cashiers check made out to the Supervisor of Elections office.

The memo line on the cashiers check said "Leon County DEC."

At the PBA, Murrell said, "The Leon County DEC is still on the hook because they didn't pay the fine, the state party did. The law requires that the people who were late filing their report have to pay the fine, and that's the county (party)."

Herron practices extensively before the State Elections Commission, which handles complaints about campaign financial reporting. He said the three checks "answer directly the PBA's questions, that they want to know where the money came from."

Carter-Smith, who was executive director of the Florida Democratic Party when Maddox was its chairman, said the explanation will help resolve questions that have dogged the state and local Democratic organizations and the Maddox campaign for two weeks.

"The good news is, we are getting to the bottom of this, and we are ready to move on and go about the business of getting Democrats elected," she said. "It's unfortunate that this has occurred, but we will get through it and come out the other side stronger."

Jill said...

I'm really quite shocked that Thurman seems ready to fall on her sword for Maddox. You'd think she'd throw him under the bus as he should be thrown.

Honestly, you don't pay with a cashiers check unless you are trying to cover something.

Anonymous said...

I guess he couldn't raise money for the party.

If this quarterly report shows that he raised more for his campaign in the 2nd quarter than he did for the party in the 1st, someone should question whether Maddox put forth his best effort for the party or if he saved some of the donors for himself when he left to run for governor.

Did Maddox's ambition to become governor overtake his responsibility to lead the FDP and leave the party in a bettter position to meet its payroll, pay its bills, and begin building for the 2006 campaign?

Matt said...

To me it nothing short of a dereliction of duty that Karen Thurman would continue to cover for Maddox. Why is she doing this?

Thurman herself may not be fit to be FDP Chairwoman if this continues. The results of the audit were essentialy hushed up from what I have heard, and now she is covering for him on this criminal sounding check ordeal.

Anonymous said...

Now you blood thirsty individuals are trying to take down Thurman also?

Just switch and become Republicans, pleeeeeeeeze!

Mark said...

As a supporter of Thurman in the FDP election, I am too becoming quite disappointed in her performance as chairman. This situation with Maddox has gotten totally out of control, and a strong chairman would have tossed him overboard and made it go away.

I know that she doesn't want to hurt a fellow Democrat, but doesn't she realize that by covering for Maddox she is hurting all the rest of us Democrats?

Mark said...

Josh,

I reread your post, then read today's papers. You were wrong. Maddox did funnel state party money through a local bank to pay the fine for the local party. I'm not sure, but I think this is technically illegal. The local party has to pay its own fine. Does anyone know if this is true?

Joe said...

I agree with the above posts regarding Thurman. She is really going to be tested now if she continues to cover for Maddox.

Tim L said...

Scott Maddox is about as slimy and corrupt as public officials come. Heck, Maddox is about as slimy and corrupt as Business leaders come as well. He is a pathological liar and he constantly finds psychopaths to buy into his constant lies.

I am totally floored that Karen Thurman, having always been an ethical Congresswoman from the Gainesville area now has decided that she needs to cover the tracks of someone who would sell his own mother to keep his name out of trouble. Maddox as I have pointed out previously here on Kartik's website is a corrupt, criminal, lying weasel. I am guessing that Thurman is being presured from Bill Nelson to cover for Maddox.

I am seriously contemplating switching my party registration to NPA. I have not been active in politics the last few years focusing on non-profit work here in Tallahassee and working with Florida State University on some sports related projects.

From my vantage point if the leadership of the Democratic Party wants to continue to be morally bankrupt and be responsive to continued lies from Scott Maddox and Jon Ausman, good riddance on the Democrats. Scott Maddox is a poison unknown to those in the state who didn't live under him as mayor of Tallahassee and did not attend college with him as I did at FSU almost 15 years ago.

And for those of you idealistic liberals backing Maddox so strongly, believing his lies and marganzilizing yourselves politically because of it, you may want examine Maddox’s relatively conservative record as Mayor of Tallahassee before you continue to support his efforts to deceive the public.

Anonymous said...

Tim L,

Do not let your personal vendettas get in your way of understanding the truth: Maddox has already been cleared and vindicated.

LZ said...

How much longer can Maddox continue to persist in this effort to destroy and divide the Democratic Party.

Jill said...

My guess is that Maddox will drop out soon. The party leadership will have a come to Jesus type meeting with him and explain to him why he must drop out.

Lou said...

Maddox has got to get out and I agree with above posters saying that Thurman needs to get toguh with him for the sake of the party's future or give up here position as well.

Anonymous said...

just got this email...hilarious...maddox is offically the laughing stock of florida pols


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Paige Carter-Maddox
(850) 878-6461

MADDOX ANNOUNCES NEW CAMPAIGN THEME
Message To Stress "Hear No Evil, See No Evil"

(TALLAHASSEE)- Former "leadership Mayor" Scott Maddox announced today that his beleaguered campaign will begin to engage Florida Democrats with an optimistic message of carelessness, grounded in ignorance and avoidance of responsibility.

"As Governor of Florida, my 'hear no evil, see no evil' approach to management will lead our state to a brighter tomorrow. Our schools will improve, because I won't see that they're overcrowded. Our budgets will balance, because I'll be deaf to deficits. Our seniors will afford their prescriptions, because I won't see them struggling."

While Chairman of the Florida Democratic Party, Maddox showed bold leadership and demonstrated Social Security's solvency by failing to pay over $200,000 in payroll taxes. Despite Scott's innovative leadership, his political enemies, including Karl Rove, the IRS, and the Tallahassee press corps invented a "Maddoxgate" scandal.

"Leadership is about avoiding challenges and taking responsibility for that crucial ignorance," said Maddox. "I'm a manager. I manage big things. Under my leadership, Florida Democrats won the big election: the Huxford mayor's race.

Maddox not only has considerable governing experience, but corporate experience as well. In the closing days of the 2004 election, Maddox managed not only the state party in a crucial swing state, but also the lobbying interests of developers in Tallahassee.

Florida's challenges require innovative leadership and tested management experience. Imagine what Scott Maddox can do for Florida as governor.

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Jeff said...

Okay, Kartik and friends......you guys have effectively declared war on the Florida Democratic Party. Kartik, I'd be lying if I didn't tell you that I am going to try and get this site taken down for all of its continued attacks on the Democratic Party. Be thankful that you are not getting sued for libel.

As for the joker who posted the above email, you are essentialy a tool of the GOP and you also should be sued.

Anonymous said...

Satire is fine. If it wasn't, Saturday Night Live would have been sued long ago.

It is utter nonsense that Democrats can't criticize the fumbling, bumbling and mismanagement of the state party without being called tools of the GOP.

Wake up. Right now we are not competing in the same league as the Florida GOP. They outraise our candidates by a 10-to-one margin. The RPOF is organized while the FDP is trying to figure out how to make payroll.

In the face of this uphill struggle, Florida Democrats can't afford to have a flawed messenger trying to deliver the message that Democrats need to send out to become competitive again. I supported Gore but look at how the serial exaggerator tag stuck to him. I supported Kerry but look at how the Swift Boat Vets issue stuck to him. I supported Castor but look at how Al Arian stuck to her.

Now, think for a moment how Maddoxgate will stick. Instead of condemning the previous mock press release, Democratic strategists should flock to some room and figure out how to counter this attack.

Like Hurricane Dennis, this attack is coming and it's not going to be pretty when it gets here.

You've had fair warning.

I am a progressive but I'm not a "my party right or wrong" person. For the sake of restoring the 2-party system in Florida again, Florida Democrats better make the right decision about their gubernatorial candidate for 2006. If not, I'm afraid the GOP will dominate this state for a generation as Democrats lose a number of level-headed voters who may have given them a chance.

Anonymous said...

How Can You Not Just Love Scott Maddox?
DANIEL RUTH


A s ``Mr. Bluebird On My Shoulder'' moments go, this was somewhere between the governor refusing a stay of execution and the Glazer boys deciding to go pub- hopping in Manchester, England.

Karen Thurman, who has to feel as if she has been tapped to head the Anbar Province Tourism Board, had just held a news conference in which she essentially described the internal workings of the Florida Democratic Party as the red tide of bookkeeping.

``It's a mess,'' she admitted.

Accounting boo-boos under the administration of former Chairman Scott Maddox had misfiled some $900,000. The IRS had recently fined the party $200,000 over unpaid payroll taxes.

Expenditures had been sloppily entered into the party's computer system.

Indeed, it took eight forensic auditors to unravel the Gordian Knot of financial incompetence to conclude the party's money woes were largely the result of mismanagement rather than criminality.


Fodder Aplenty

To which Maddox, who is now running for governor, responded with the claim that he had been ``vindicated.''

And that is why I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

Scott Maddox is more, much, much more, than a mere candidate for office. He is column fodder schmoozing.

Ahem, let's see here, the current state Democratic Party chairwoman has just described her predecessor's stewardship as more befuddled than Mr. Magoo performing brain surgery, and Scott Maddox blithely regards a report that would have lesser men cringing with embarrassment as a vindication of his management style.

Lesser politicos, exposed as having all the management acumen of Mongo from ``Blazing Saddles,'' would have folded their campaigns and slunk off into obscurity.

But not Scott Maddox, the Sammy Glick of the Apalachee Parkway. Onward and upward!

That's because, while an awful lot of political figures pay casual lip service to shamelessness, Scott Maddox has mastered the art of utter, bald-faced, unctuous disingenuousness to Maury Povich-esque proportions.


Wresting The Crown

In a sort of sick, twisted, perverted way, you have to concede some grudging respect to Maddox, a man happily and without reservation more than willing to wrest from the head of Jeb Bush the crown as the Eddie Haskell of Tallahassee.

There is a certain slimy charm about a true professional politician who knows that you know that he knows that you know he is a complete balderdash artist filled with more phony phooey than Ahmed Chalabi meets Jesse Jackson.

While it is certainly true his administrative shortcomings make Lucille Ball on a pie assembly line look like Henry Ford, Maddox, who didn't seem to be able to oversee a small staff of party workers, remained undaunted in his quest to become Florida's chief executive officer responsible for 486,265 state-funded employees.

Ever the political sociopath, Maddox insisted with a straight face the other day that all the negative publicity casting him as having all the organizational skills of a village idiot was a really good sign for his gubernatorial campaign.

That's because, he believed, his political enemies were exploiting his complete ineptitude as an executive because they feared he might actually win the election.

Uh, Scott, the critics of your tenure of the state Democratic Party ... are the state Democratic Party.

It's probably just a hint your campaign may be in a pinch of trouble when party loyalists grab their wallets and assume the crash position when you walk into a room.

And that's why I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

He's right. People - including people in his own party - worry Scott Maddox could win.

Uh-oh.

This story can be found at: http://www.tampatrib.com/News/MGBWM72YVAE.html

Matt said...

This is typical of the Democrats and why we continue to lose. Karne Thurman has colluded with Scott Maddox to put out a phony report and hope this thing just goes away. It will not. Unless we are willing to take out the trash, we will never be able to rebuild this party.

Lou said...

That Daniel Ruth column is great!

Anonymous said...

How terrible this whole thing is.

Anonymous said...

Tallahassee Democrat

Opinion Editorial

Posted on Thu, Jul. 07, 2005

Blameless?
Bad decision haunts Maddox

Another round of "blame the bookkeeper" headlines have been sparked by new admissions that the Florida Democratic Party was responsible for paying a $10,500 fine levied against the Leon County Democratic Party by Supervisor of Elections Ion Sancho for the late filing of financial reports.

The bookkeeper in question was Debbie Griffin-Bruton, who has acknowledged being at the center of a continuing financial scandal at the state party. Her boss at the time was Democratic gubernatorial candidate Scott Maddox, the former Tallahassee mayor and one-time chairman of the state and Leon County Democratic parties.

The headline parade began last month, when the IRS slapped a $200,000 lien on the Florida party's bank account for its failure to remit payroll and withholding taxes to the federal government.

It continued as the Tallahassee Democrat reported that Mr. Maddox had allowed Mrs. Griffin-Bruton and her husband to live in a home he owned rent-free - and that property taxes owed on that home were not paid in a timely fashion.

Mr. Maddox was elated that a forensic audit ordered by the state party found that no money was missing and that he had no knowledge of the bookkeeper's actions.

But he hired the bookkeeper in the first place. He does take "full responsibility" for that decision, though far more quietly than the oft-repeated statement that he had no knowledge of what Mrs. Griffin-Bruton was doing.

At best, Mr. Maddox is blameless. At worst, he is clueless. With each new headline, citizens do need to ask themselves whether the latter is closer to the truth.

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© 2005 Tallahassee Democrat and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.tallahassee.com

browarddem06 said...

The only reason this story is still out there is because of irresponsible pro Republican websites like this. I suggest that the real Democrats stop posting here and reading this site until the editors are more responsible about the content.

BlueDawgDem said...
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BlueDawgDem said...
No disrespect, but this theory that Karen Thurman's is covering up for Maddox is bizarre.

Let's review some recent press accounts of this deal---

She called his accounting practices "the worst ever."

She stood with the auditor whom basically threw Maddox under the bus for bad hiring and supervising.

At the same press event, it was reported that she did little to defend him when asked if she supported his campaign.

She also announced a total overhaul of the accounting procedures.

And, she released copies of the checks from FDP used to pay the Leon DEC fine.

This hardly is a record of colluding with Maddox.

Karen Thurman walked into a minefield, left behind by the Chair. She had two jobs---fix Maddox's problem, and restore voter and donor confidence in the Party, something that won't happen overnight. Getting in a public spitting match with Maddox solved neither.

She did fix the problem, and by taking swift action, has begun the process of rebuilding confidence. She has done a fantastic job wading through this disaster, and deserves the appreciation of all Democrats, not the fury of a few Rod Smith and Jim Davis supporters, who would only be happy if she called for a Maddox special prosecutor.

Now it is up to Maddox to do the right thing. Thurman can't make that decision for him. All she can do is build a strong party that will support whichever Democrat comes out of the Party, even if it is Maddox.

Anonymous said...

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Buddy Nevins Political Column:

Big opportunity fading away

July 9, 2005

Democratic gubernatorial candidate Scott Maddox's troubles have probably sunk the chance for one of three Broward County women to quickly move up in the world of politics.

Broward Mayor Kristin Jacobs and County Commissioners Ilene Lieberman and Diana Wasserman-Rubin are among those perfectly positioned to be the lieutenant governor running mate for Maddox.

Maddox, the former mayor of Tallahassee, could use somebody from South Florida to pump up the vote in this Democrat-rich area. A woman on the ticket would also bolster the Democratic ticket's chances with female voters.

That's Politics 101. Pollster Jim Kane, who teaches political science at the University of Florida, agrees.

"The idea is to balance the ticket," Kane explains. "You get a South Florida running mate to turn out the vote down here, while the candidate from North Florida can concentrate on his area and central Florida."

The balance includes gender balance, Kane says.

When you look at a list of Maddox supporters in South Florida, there are a handful of women who are electable and can raise prodigious sums of money. Three who have to be on the top of the list are Jacobs, Lieberman and Wasserman-Rubin.

Asked about a running mate at a recent Broward fund-raiser, Maddox ducked the question. "It's way too early to discuss," agrees Lieberman, whose fund-raising abilities snagged more than $100,000 of the $300,000 or so Maddox raised in the past three months.

Now might be the only time Maddox gets to discuss a lieutenant governor. With his campaign limping because of accusations that he mismanaged his job as chairman of the state Democratic Party, his campaign might not survive long enough for him to pick a running mate.

Got a tip? Buddy is at bnevins@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4571.

Copyright © 2005, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Lee said...

Maddox is dead . It;s just amatter of whether you guys (The Democrats) are going to continue to endure his bringing your party down or if someone is finally going to kick him in the teeth.

Mark said...

BlueDawgDem makes a good point. I used the word "cover" when I described Thurman's conduct, and I didn't mean for it to be interpretted as meaning "cover up." In no way do I think that Thurman is covering up anything for Maddox. I think she is doing her best to make Maddox's mess go away. I'm just saying that I don't think she has been as forceful as she needs to be. I understand that she doesn't want to hurt a fellow Democrat, but she needs to realize ASAP that by not throwing Maddox overboard, she hurts the FDP.

I guess what concerned me most was the St. Pete Times article on Thursday, titled Party again excuses Maddox. I personally think that too many people are willing to destroy this Debbie person while letting her superiors get away with everything. Maddox has not accepted responsibility for anything. He's just made excuse after excuse. Yes, he says that he accepts responsibility, but then in the same breath, he says that it is all Debbie's fault.

Again, I want to correct my earlier statements and agree with BlueDawgDem. I am not condemning Karen Thurman, and I don't agree with some of the conspiracy theories that have appeared on this blog. But at the same time, I wish she would get a little tougher on Maddox. She needs to publicly ask him to get out of the race, because he is bringing down the Party.

Tim L said...

Honestly, why is Thurman not calling out Maddox and asking him to get out of the pace in the interest of party unity? She really should ask him to drop out.

Anonymous said...

MADDOX CAMPAIGN THEME SONG:
IDA KNOW
By the Olsen Twins

I've got a friend named Ida. I really like her so
Her first name is Ida. Her last name is Know.
So when I'm caught red-handed
Here's what I do:
I say "I didn't do it
It was you know who..."

Who put ketchup on the floor? Ida Know
Who put crayon o n the door? Ida Know
When your mother tells you "shame"
And you need someone to blame,
Just remember Ida's name: Ida Know

Who ate Oreos in bed? Ida Know
Hit the baby on the head? Ida Know
If there's trouble and they find it,
Smile and tell them who's behind it
Just one kid could mastermind it: Ida Know

Ida Know-
She's the one who wouldn't shush
She's the one who wouldn't flush
She's a lot of fun to play with
Wo wo wo-
It's the only way to go
Cause when you know Ida Know
There's so much you get away with

Who forgot to do her math? Ida Know
Put a goldfish in the bath? Ida Know
Stuck a finger in the strudel
Used a vacuum on the poodle
Come on, kiddo, use you noodle: Ida Know

So if you do something wrong-Ida Know
You can sing this little song-Ida Know
But if this one doesn't do
here's another one for you:
Ida Wanna-she's good, too
Ida Wanna?
Yes you do
Ida Think So
Yeah her too
Ida Thought So
She's gone to Idaho
Ida Who?
Are we through?
Ida Know

http://www.azlyrics.us/186201

Tim L said...

Please keep the heat on Maddox. We need websites such as this to continue to keep this story alive.

Anonymous said...

Why is this story dead? Bloggers you have an obligation to keep it alive for the good of the Democratic Party. Maddox must go!

Anonymous said...

It's not that the story is dead...

It is that MADDOX is dead.

When 8 of the 9 leading newspapers in the state (including your hometown paper, The Tallahassee Democrat) write editorials telling you to get out of the race you are as good as dead.

Anonymous said...

Maddox, is what someone else called, the "Sixth Sense" candidate...

everyone else knows he is dead except him.

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